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Monday, June 16, 2008

Advance DNA analysis

Latest DNA comparison result tables, as of 7/26/09.

This first table shows what our "modal" would look like (markers in the first horizontal row).  Colored squares indicate the number of markers that one is different from the modal.  The most deviation is 1 or 2 markers occasionally off from the modal.  This table shows that we are a pretty close group in general; those that make up the "loose" matches will have more markers off from the modal.


FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison

KIT ID

AND

ANCESTOR

D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
1
9
/
3
9
4
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
D
Y
S
4
2
6
D
Y
S
3
8
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
1
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
2
D
Y
S
4
5
8
D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
D
Y
S
4
5
5
D
Y
S
4
5
4
D
Y
S
4
4
7
D
Y
S
4
3
7
D
Y
S
4
4
8
D
Y
S
4
4
9
D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
D
Y
S
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
I
I
a
Y
C
A
I
I
b
D
Y
S
4
5
6
D
Y
S
6
0
7
D
Y
S
5
7
6
D
Y
S
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
D
Y
S
4
4
2
D
Y
S
4
3
8
D
Y
S
5
3
1
D
Y
S
5
7
8
D
Y
S
3
9
5
S
1
a
D
Y
S
3
9
5
S
1
b
D
Y
S
5
9
0
D
Y
S
5
3
7
D
Y
S
6
4
1
D
Y
S
4
7
2
D
Y
S
4
0
6
S
1
D
Y
S
5
1
1
D
Y
S
4
2
5
D
Y
S
4
1
3
a
D
Y
S
4
1
3
b
D
Y
S
5
5
7
D
Y
S
5
9
4
D
Y
S
4
3
6
D
Y
S
4
9
0
D
Y
S
5
3
4
D
Y
S
4
5
0
D
Y
S
4
4
4
D
Y
S
4
8
1
D
Y
S
5
2
0
D
Y
S
4
4
6
D
Y
S
6
1
7
D
Y
S
5
6
8
D
Y
S
4
8
7
D
Y
S
5
7
2
D
Y
S
6
4
0
D
Y
S
4
9
2
D
Y
S
5
6
5
modal 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
121248 John McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29                                                                                                              
30157 John McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29                                                                                                              
21218 Francis McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
32277 John McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 15 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
33735 Francis McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 20 37 38 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
44801 Thomas McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 19 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 null 22 23 17 10 12 12 17 8 12 22 21 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
113714 James McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
111694 John McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 36 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
146421 Francis McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
N7273 Elijah McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
23171 Josiah McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 39 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
144055 John McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 40 12 10                                                            
20871 Jesse McGuire 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 14 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 19 37 38 12 10 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 9 null 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
86421 Timothy McGuire 14 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 20 18 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 null 22 22 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
N35961 Timothy McGuire 14 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 14 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 18 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 null 22 22 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
108908 John McGuire 14 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 14 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 20 18 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 null 22 22 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
86542 Timothy McGuire 14 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 15 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 17 15 19 18 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 null 22 22 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

 



SMGF Database Configuration - DNA Results Comparison

KIT ID

AND

ANCESTOR

D
Y
S
3
8
5
D
Y
S
3
8
8
D
Y
S
3
8
9
I
D
Y
S
3
8
9
I
I
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
3
9
4
/
1
9
D
Y
S
4
2
6
D
Y
S
4
3
7
D
Y
S
4
3
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
D
Y
S
4
4
1
D
Y
S
4
4
2
D
Y
S
4
4
4
D
Y
S
4
4
5
D
Y
S
4
4
6
D
Y
S
4
4
7
D
Y
S
4
4
8
D
Y
S
4
4
9
D
Y
S
4
5
2
D
Y
S
4
5
4
D
Y
S
4
5
5
D
Y
S
4
5
6
D
Y
S
4
5
8
D
Y
S
4
5
9
D
Y
S
4
6
0
D
Y
S
4
6
1
D
Y
S
4
6
2
D
Y
S
4
6
3
D
Y
S
4
6
4
G
G
A
A
T
1
B
0
7
Y
C
A
I
I
Y
-
G
A
T
A
-
A
1
0
Y
-
G
A
T
A
-
C
4
Y
-
G
A
T
A
-
H
4
modal 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
121248 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12

13























30157 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12

13























21218 Francis McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-9 11


15-15-16-17
19-23

21
32277 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-15-17
19-23

21
33735 Francis McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-16-17
19-23

21
44801 Thomas McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 12 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
113714 James McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
111694 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
146421 Francis McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
N7273 Elijah McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
23171 Josiah McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
144055 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 13
17


25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
20871 Jesse McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 15 12 15 10 14
17 12
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
86421 Timothy McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 14 12 15 12 13
17 13
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
N35961 Timothy McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 14 12 15 12 14
17 13
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
108908 John McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 14 12 15 12 14
17 13
13 25 19 28
11 11 16 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
86542 Timothy McGuire 11-15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 14 12 15 12 15
17 13
13 25 19 28
11 11 17 17 9-10 11


15-15-17-17
19-23

21
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

 



Ybase Database Configuration - DNA Results Comparison

KIT ID

AND

ANCESTOR

D
Y
S
1
9
/
3
9
4
D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
D
Y
S
3
8
8
D
Y
S
3
8
9
i
D
Y
S
3
8
9
i
i
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
4
2
5
D
Y
S
4
2
6
D
Y
S
4
3
7
D
Y
S
4
3
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
D
Y
S
4
4
1
D
Y
S
4
4
2
D
Y
S
4
4
4
D
Y
S
4
4
5
D
Y
S
4
4
6
D
Y
S
4
4
7
D
Y
S
4
4
8
D
Y
S
4
4
9
D
Y
S
4
5
2
D
Y
S
4
5
4
D
Y
S
4
5
5
D
Y
S
4
5
6
D
Y
S
4
5
8
D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
D
Y
S
4
6
0
D
Y
S
4
6
1
D
Y
S
4
6
2
D
Y
S
4
6
3
D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
D
Y
S
5
7
0
D
Y
S
5
7
6
D
Y
S
6
0
7
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
G
A
T
A

A
1
0
G
A
T
A

C
4
/
D
Y
S
6
3
5
T
A
G
A

H
4
G
G
A
A
T
1
B
0
7
Y
C
A
I
I
a
Y
C
A
I
I
b
modal 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
121248 John McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13   12     13                                                                    
30157 John McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13   12     13                                                                    
21218 Francis McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 9 11       15 15 16 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
32277 John McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 15 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
33735 Francis McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 16 17 20 19 15 37 38     12   19 23
44801 Thomas McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 12 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 18 15 36 37     12   19 23
113714 James McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 18 15 37 39     12   19 23
111694 John McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 36 39     12   19 23
146421 Francis McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
N7273 Elijah McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
23171 Josiah McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 39     12   19 23
144055 John McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 13   12       25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 40     12   19 23
20871 Jesse McGuire 15 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 13 null 12 15 10 14   12 12   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 19 19 15 37 38     12   19 23
86421 Timothy McGuire 14 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 null 12 15 12 13   12 13   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 18 20 15 36 38     12   19 23
N35961 Timothy McGuire 14 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 null 12 15 12 14   12 13   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 18 19 15 36 38     12   19 23
108908 John McGuire 14 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 null 12 15 12 14   12 13   13 25 19 28   11 11 16 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 18 20 15 36 38     12   19 23
86542 Timothy McGuire 14 11 15 12 13 29 24 11 13 14 null 12 15 12 15   12 13   13 25 19 28   11 11 17 17 9 10 11       15 15 17 17 18 19 15 36 38     12   19 23
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

Yhrd - DNA Comparison

KIT ID

AND

ANCESTOR

D
Y
S
1
9
D
Y
S
3
8
9

I
D
Y
S
3
8
9

I
I
D
Y
S
3
9
0
D
Y
S
3
9
1
D
Y
S
3
9
2
D
Y
S
3
9
3
D
Y
S
3
8
5
D
Y
S
4
3
8
D
Y
S
4
3
9
modal 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
121248 John McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15
13
30157 John McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15
13
21218 Francis McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
32277 John McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
33735 Francis McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
44801 Thomas McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 12 13
113714 James McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
111694 John McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
146421 Francis McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
N7273 Elijah McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
23171 Josiah McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
144055 John McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 13
20871 Jesse McGuire 15 13 29 24 11 13 13 11.15 10 14
86421 Timothy McGuire 14 13 29 24 11 13 14 11.15 12 13
N35961 Timothy McGuire 14 13 29 24 11 13 14 11.15 12 14
108908 John McGuire 14 13 29 24 11 13 14 11.15 12 14
86542 Timothy McGuire 14 13 29 24 11 13 14 11.15 12 15
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

Our Genetic Distance - GD (relatedness)

This second table, "Genetic Distance" is interesting to study.  You can see how each participant "GD" compares to you.  Hold your mouse cursor over the color squares in the row for your kit number. A small pop window over each square will display who your markers are being compared to... and how many markers you are off from each other.

 

Genetic Distance

KIT ID

AND

ANCESTOR

m
o
d
a
l
1
2
1
2
4
8

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
3
0
1
5
7

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
2
1
2
1
8

F
r
a
n
c
i
s

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
3
2
2
7
7

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
3
3
7
3
5

F
r
a
n
c
i
s

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
4
4
8
0
1

T
h
o
m
a
s

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
1
1
3
7
1
4

J
a
m
e
s

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
1
1
1
6
9
4

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
1
4
6
4
2
1

F
r
a
n
c
i
s

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
N
7
2
7
3

E
l
i
j
a
h

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
2
3
1
7
1

J
o
s
i
a
h

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
1
4
4
0
5
5

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
2
0
8
7
1

J
e
s
s
e

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
8
6
4
2
1

T
i
m
o
t
h
y

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
N
3
5
9
6
1

T
i
m
o
t
h
y

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
1
0
8
9
0
8

J
o
h
n

M
c
G
u
i
r
e
8
6
5
4
2

T
i
m
o
t
h
y

M
c
G
u
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modal 66 0 0 2 1 3 9 1 1 1 0 0 1 2 11 11 12 12
121248 John McGuire 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 3 3
30157 John McGuire 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 3 3
21218 Francis McGuire 2 0 0 66 2 3 11 3 3 3 2 2 3 4 13 13 14 14
32277 John McGuire 1 0 0 2 66 3 10 2 2 2 1 1 2 3 12 12 13 13
33735 Francis McGuire 3 0 0 3 3 66 11 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 11 11 12 12
44801 Thomas McGuire 9 0 0 11 10 11 66 8 8 9 9 9 4 10 10 11 11 12
113714 James McGuire 1 0 0 3 2 4 8 66 2 2 1 1 2 3 11 12 12 13
111694 John McGuire 1 0 0 3 2 4 8 2 66 2 1 1 2 3 10 10 11 11
146421 Francis McGuire 1 0 0 3 2 4 9 2 2 66 1 1 1 3 12 12 13 13
N7273 Elijah McGuire 0 0 0 2 1 3 9 1 1 1 66 0 1 2 11 11 12 12
23171 Josiah McGuire 0 0 0 2 1 3 9 1 1 1 0 66 1 2 11 11 12 12
144055 John McGuire 1 0 0 3 2 3 4 2 2 1 1 1 37 2 7 7 8 8
20871 Jesse McGuire 2 1 1 4 3 3 10 3 3 3 2 2 2 66 11 9 10 11
86421 Timothy McGuire 11 2 2 13 12 11 10 11 10 12 11 11 7 11 66 2 1 3
N35961 Timothy McGuire 11 3 3 13 12 11 11 12 10 12 11 11 7 9 2 66 1 2
108908 John McGuire 12 3 3 14 13 12 11 12 11 13 12 12 8 10 1 1 66 3
86542 Timothy McGuire 12 3 3 14 13 12 12 13 11 13 12 12 8 11 3 2 3 66
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 37 Markers
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

Estimated earliest common ancestor

The last table, TMRCA (Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor) in Years is interesting too.  All four of our "loose" matches have tested at the 67 marker level; and they all show a null value at DYS425... the same as six of our close matched participants.  I firmly believe we all share a common ancestor because of the null value.  A null value is rare, and it just doesn't happen accidentally. 

There are other unique markers and their values that can help in identifying our group.  Most of our group have the following markers and values; DYS 19 = 15, DYS 385b = 15, DYS 438 = 10, DYS 511 = 9.  All of these unique markers taken as a whole along with the DYS 425 null... likely indicates that everyone in our group is related to a common ancestor.

If you look at this table below and compare the four loose participants to the "modal column" in years... one will see that the loose matches are showing a common ancestor with the modal anywhere from 840 - 1140 years ago.  In using this table below... I believe one should use modal values in this table when comparing TMRC's between each other.

 

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years)

KIT ID

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ANCESTOR

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2
1
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4
8

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5
7

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2
1
2
1
8

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3
2
2
7
7

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M
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3
3
7
3
5

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c
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4
4
8
0
1

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1
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3
7
1
4

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1
1
1
6
9
4

J
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M
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1
4
6
4
2
1

F
r
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N
7
2
7
3

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M
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2
3
1
7
1

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1
4
4
0
5
5

J
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M
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0
8
7
1

J
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M
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8
6
4
2
1

T
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5
9
6
1

T
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m
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M
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1
0
8
9
0
8

J
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M
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8
6
5
4
2

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modal 66 300 300 160 100 200 580 100 100 100 40 40 160 160 700 700 780 780
121248 John McGuire 300 12 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 740 1240 1780 1780 1780
30157 John McGuire 300 300 12 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 740 1240 1780 1780 1780
21218 Francis McGuire 160 300 300 66 160 200 700 200 200 200 160 160 340 260 840 840 920 920
32277 John McGuire 100 300 300 160 66 200 640 160 160 160 100 100 240 200 780 780 840 840
33735 Francis McGuire 200 300 300 200 200 66 700 260 260 260 200 200 340 200 700 700 780 780
44801 Thomas McGuire 580 300 300 700 640 700 66 520 520 580 580 580 440 640 640 700 700 780
113714 James McGuire 100 300 300 200 160 260 520 66 160 160 100 100 240 200 700 780 780 840
111694 John McGuire 100 300 300 200 160 260 520 160 66 160 100 100 240 200 640 640 700 700
146421 Francis McGuire 100 300 300 200 160 260 580 160 160 66 100 100 160 200 780 780 840 840
N7273 Elijah McGuire 40 300 300 160 100 200 580 100 100 100 66 40 160 160 700 700 780 780
23171 Josiah McGuire 40 300 300 160 100 200 580 100 100 100 40 66 160 160 700 700 780 780
144055 John McGuire 160 300 300 340 240 340 440 240 240 160 160 160 37 240 740 740 860 860
20871 Jesse McGuire 160 740 740 260 200 200 640 200 200 200 160 160 240 66 700 580 640 700
86421 Timothy McGuire 700 1240 1240 840 780 700 640 700 640 780 700 700 740 700 66 160 100 200
N35961 Timothy McGuire 700 1780 1780 840 780 700 700 780 640 780 700 700 740 580 160 66 100 160
108908 John McGuire 780 1780 1780 920 840 780 700 780 700 840 780 780 860 640 100 100 66 200
86542 Timothy McGuire 780 1780 1780 920 840 780 780 840 700 840 780 780 860 700 200 160 200 66
0-180 Years 200-380 Years 400-580 Years 600-780 Years
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0020 to 0.0031
     rates derived by Doug McDonald from the Sorenson database
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated
- Average generation: 20 years
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